IF THE KURDS WANT TO HAVE THEIR OWN COUNTRY THEY NEED TO STOP MAKING MISCHIEF IN TURKEY AND IRAN , THE QUESTION NEEDS TO BE STUDIED. IT IS PART OF THE BIG PICTURE. THE DEVIL WILL BE IN THE DETAILS. BIDEN HAS PROPOSED SEPARATING IRAQ INTO 3 PARTS. RICHARDSON AND OBAMA HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST.

Turkey Forms Alliance With Iran Against Kurds

Monday, October 15, 2007 11:15 AM

By: Kenneth R. Timmerman Article Font Size

U.S. ally Turkey and U.S. arch-enemy Iran have formed a military alliance to drive opposition Kurds from bases in northern Iraq they have used since 2004 to launch guerrilla operations inside Iran, rebel leaders told Newsmax at a secret base in the Qandil mountains.

Both Iran and Turkey have vowed to send troops into northern Iraq, but until now evidence of active military cooperation between them has remained a closely-held secret.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has stepped up political and diplomatic threats in recent days, telling the United States he would cut off U.S. access to the strategic Incirlik airbase in eastern Turkey if the U.S. tried to prevent Turkey from sending troops against the Kurdish bases in northern Iraq.

Leaders of the Party of Free Life of Iranian Kurdistan, known as PJAK, provided Newsmax with extensive evidence of the Iran-Turkey alliance in two days of exclusive interviews at a secret guerilla base deep in the Qandil mountains. An Iranian Revolutionary Guards outpost was visible on a nearby mountain peak.

“Iran and Turkey attacked jointly on August 16 against our forces inside Iran and against Turkish self-defense forces in northern Iraq,” a PJAK commander using the nom de guerre Xerat told Newsmax at the Iranian rebel base.

The Iranian Revolutionary Guards “attacked us across a broad front in the areas of Sardasht, Piranshahr, Shaho, Urmieh, and along the border line,” Xerat said, citing the names of major cities in Iranian Kurdistan where PJAK rebels have been operating.

While those ground operations were underway, Iranian and Turkish artillery simultaneously began shelling civilian villages inside Iraqi Kurdistan from Metina, Zaab, Haftani, and Hakurke in the north, to Haji Oumran, Qalatdizza, Zeh, Marado, and Xinera in the south, he added.

Turkish artillery hit the northern villages, while Iranian gunners hit the southern ones.

Iranian troops attempted to cross into Iraq through the mountain passes, but PJAK fighters held the line.

“The goal of the Iranians is to drive us from the border area,” rebel leader Biryar Gabar told Newsmax. “They want to turn this area into a no-man’s land, so they can use it to smuggle weapons and Islamist guerillas into Iraq to fight the Americans.”

He called the Iran-Turkey entente “an anti-American alliance,” not just an anti-Kurdish agreement, and said that it resulted from deliberate decisions from the ruling Islamist AKP party of Prime Minister Erdogan to transform Turkey into an increasingly Islamist state.

A senior European official, who was involved in talks to bring Turkey into the European Union, told Newsmax recently he had been “stunned” by the hard-line toward the Kurds taken by AKP party leader Abdullah Gul, now Turkey’s president.

“He was totally uncompromising,” the official said. “He took a harder line than the Turkish military.”

Iran has been offering Turkey an economic agreement with Iran in July to build a strategic pipeline that will bring Iranian natural gas to Europe, in defiance of a U.S. led effort to increase the economic squeeze on Iran.

During a press conference in August while he was still foreign minister, Gul defended Turkey and Iran’s joint action against Kurdish guerillas in Iraq.

“They pose a threat to Turkey as well as to other neighbors. Therefore, every country has the right to defend its borders and take legitimate measures for its own security,” Gül said.

On Sept. 9, Iraqi President Jalal Talabani publicly called on PJAK and Turkish Kurdish militamen to leave Iraq, or limit themselves to purely political activities.

Since the liberation of Iraq by the Coalition, PJAK has maintained control of the Iran-Iraq border in this area, and prevented infiltration by Iran or al-Qaida-related terrorists.

The U.S. military sent liaison officers to meet with PJAK in 2003 and again in 2005 to discuss Iranian efforts to infiltrate Iraq, but have not pursued discussions further, PJAK officials said.

“From August 16-24, the Iranians tried to cross the border along the mountain ridge line, but we pushed them back,” Biryar Gabar said.

During the Iranian ground attacks, PJAK learned from its operatives on the ground inside Iran that Turkish officers were acting as military advisors to the Iranian troops, he told Newsmax.

Additional information was gleaned from the interrogation of an Iranian Revolutionary Guards soldier captured by PJAK guerillas who is now being held inside Iraq, and from papers taken from the bodies of 60 Iranian guards troops killed during the clashes.

PJAK fighters have killed 200 Revolutionary Guards troops and lost seven of their own soldiers since the fighting began on Aug. 16, Biryar Gabar said. Another PJAK fighter was wounded, he added.

Since the failed ground offensive by the Iranians, Turkish officers have begun training Iranian Revolutionary Guards troops in counter-insurgency operations at the Soleiman training camp near the Iranian city of Urmieh.

“The Iranians had little experience in counter-insurgency operations, so the Turks are training them,” guerilla leader Xenat said.

“Our friends saw Turkish officers coordinating the operations of the Iranian army in the Kelaresh area,” he added. Kelaresh is in the border region outside of Salmas and Urmieh, Iran.

An exclusive Newsmax source in Iran reported in late August that eight Turkish officers were then in Urmieh, coordinating the anti-Kurdish military campaign with Iran’s Revolutionary Guards.

At the command level, Iranian and Turkish military officers have held monthly coordination meetings in the Turkish cities of Harakeh, Van, Bashakale, and in the Iranian cities of Urmieh, Mahabad, and Salmas, PJAK officials said.

The Iranian government sent a 12-member delegation to Hakkari, Turkey, for a summit meeting with Turkish officials on Sept. 10, PJAK officials said.

The Iranian delegation included the governor of Urmieh province, Hassan Gaffari Azer, and the deputy commander of the border guards, Coloonel Gurban Ali Muhubi.

They met with the governor of the Hakkari district, Ayhan Nasuhbeyoglu, security chief Cavit Cevik, the commander of the local gendarmerie, Colonel Zuhuri Atilla Ataal, and the governors of two adjoining districts.

PJAK guerilla leaders also pointed to the recent creation by Iran of civilian village guards, known as “jash,” in the Iranian Kurdish areas, as another sign of Turkish military cooperation with Iran.

“The Turkish army used a similar tactic when fighting the PKK in the 1990s,” said Xenat, a former PKK fighter who is originally from Turkey but joined PJAK once the PKK dissolved its military wing in early 2000.

The “jash” village guards act as spies for the Revolutionary Guards to identify PJAK guerilla fighters., he said. They are also dressing up in Kurdish guerilla uniforms and attacking Iranian villagers, pretending to be PJAK fighters.

“The Turks have been fighting a dirty war in anti-guerilla operations for 30 years. Now they are teaching this to the Iranians,” Xenat said.

PJAK leaders said they were countering the Iranian disinformation efforts through political work on the ground inside Iran, and by attacking Revolutionary Guards units and Iranian officials such as judges who had sentenced PJAK guerilla fighters and political operatives to death.

Unlike earlier Iranian Kurdish guerilla groups, PJAK has integrated women into both its political and military wing.

For example, on Sept. 10, PJAK launched a reprisal attack against a Revolutionary Guards base near Shaho, in northwestern Iran, that was coordinated by a female guerilla fighter, said Arsham Kurdman, the head of the PJAK women’s movement.

Twelve Iranian troops were killed during that particular attack, she told Newsmax, while PJAK had no losses.

War materiel captured during that attack is now being used by PJAK fighters inside Iran, she added.

© 2007 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

Our problems in the Middle East are not going to by resolved by a “What’s in it for me? ” attitude or aproach to negotiations.

Our goal needs to be truly “What’s in it for the Iraqis”. The Sunnis want to return to their former days of dominance in Iraq. That ain’t gonna happen. The Shiites seem to want to dominate all of Iraq with an Iranian type theocracy that will be met by fierce resistance by Kurds and Sunnis. In the present situation no one can function and get on with their lives.

The borders between Shiastan, Sunistan and Kurdistan need to be divided among the new countries according to their respective populations and appropriate sharing of wealth. If Shiastan then wants to join with Iran, who are we to stop them?

There are issues, to be sure, and that is why we need to get the appropriate people talking and discussing.

Their input would be invaluable in discussions about the possibility of making 3 countries out of Iraq. One big concern would be the presence of a Kurdish state across the border from Turkey which has more ethnic Kurds living within her borders than anywhere else in the world.

I am certain that Turks and Kurds living in the USA have learned that it is possible to be Americans while embracing their ethnic and cultural origins. Their input would be invaluable in resolving some of the issues in the formation of three countries out of Iraq. The Turks, very rightfully, need to be assured that an independant Kurdfstan will not cause problems for them

Maybe we can start straightening out the Iraq mess right here in wordpress.

AND THE USA TOTALLY POLARIZED. No middle ground. Both options have very serious flaws. As the proponents of each of those strategies will be happy to tell you.

And the entire USA stands frozen like a deer with its eyes caught in the headlights of a car.

I am not saying that we impose partition upon Iraq tomorrow. I am saying to rigorously explore the possibility of separating the Kuirds, Shiites and Sunnis.

The Devil is in the details of partition but the devil is running the show now.

Maybe the partition of Iraq is the worlds dumbest idea BUT

1. We don’t know that.

2. Even if it does not prove to be feasible, we probably benefit by coming to grips with issues that are causing the present problem and that would be helpful

3. It would be encombant upon those who oppose partition to come up with some mechanism whereby Iraq could remain together.

The gambled for oil and lost. They might have won big. We had the pretext to invade Iraq. Saddam’s army was weakened in Desert Storm. The US Army seemed invincable lately. We had few combat deaths in Desert Storm and none in Kosovo.

Hey, even if we all did not profit personally from the control of Iraqi oil at least we would have bragging rights as Americans.

OK… Strictly speaking Donald Rumsfeld was not a draft dodging chickenhawk. He was a Naval Aviator in peacetime. Had Rumsfeld been a combat pilot in war, I sincerely believe that he would have been a bigger than life war hero like Audie Murphy. I actually was a big fan of Rumsfeld until he became Defense Secretary under GW Bush.

The rest of them William Kristol, Dick Cheney , Paul Wolfowitz,Scooter Libby et al took it upon themselves to get the USA involved in a misadventure in terrain in which they had no meaningful experience. One can almost imagine a nerds revenge fantasy.

Kristol is the Editor in Chief of The Weekly Standard an ultra conservative newspaper. The others were active players in the Bush administration . According to Colin Powell’s Chief of Staff, Lawrence Wilkerson, the Neoconservative cabal ran the Bush White House.

So Project for the New American Century has been an integral part of Bush foreign policy. If you want to know why we are in Iraq , go to their web site and read their own words.

That said, we do have a problem in Iraq. Does anyone have any ideas for how to get out of that mess???

IRAQITIS A NEW DISEASE

July 21, 2007

DEFINITION An inflammatory disease which is also malignant, degenerative and causes neurosis and psychosis.

ETIOLOGY The disease is caused by two basic conditions
1. Hatred of the USA , justified or not, which motivates 19 suicide hijackers to sacrifice their lives to hurt Americans.

2. The Neoconservative movement in the USA whose agenda is through massive military buildup and aggressive US foreign poicy to firmly establish the USA as the world’s only superpower in the 21st century.

PATHOGENESIS . The hatred of the USA by some Arabs, rightfully or wrongfully, caused by such US interactions with countries of the Mideast as: 1. The unconditional US support of Israel 2. Sanctions by USA carried out against Iraq , killing civilians 3. Presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia 4. US support of dictators of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan led to 9/11.

The Neoconservative control over the Bush White House led to exploitation of the American outrage over 9/11 and redirecting it toward Iraq. (This is sometimes referred to “bait and switch”) . The invasion of Iraq being part of the Neoconservative agenda as expressed in PNAC. Americans were led to believe that Iraq had something to do with 9/11 and was a danger to the USA

SYMPTOMS Malaise, Nausia and vomiting . Massive hemmorrhage of money. Antisocial behavior of the USA within the world community. Neurotic behavior including denial, rationalization, confabulation and projection on the part of Iraq War supprters . Military fatique. Over 50,000 American troops seriously wounded. Over 3600 dead.

PHYSICAL EXAMINATION Fatigue and apathy. Oil companies doing very well. World wide animosity toward USA. Bin Laden alive and kicking. Taliban in Afganistan regaining strenghth.

LAB STUDIES World Polls: GW Bush the biggest threat to world peace. China more highly regarded than USA almost everywhere except Poland and India ; Canada gives USA very slight edge. US National Debt skyrocketing. Military equipment breaking down in Iraq.

CLINICAL COURSE Stating with 70% of Americans thinking that Iraq had something to do with 9/11 and had widespread support of Iraq invasion and clear electoral victory for GW Bush the attitude toward the war has evolved to being just the opposite with the majority of Americans now wanting out of Iraq.

PROGNOSIS The outcome is mostly unpredictable. Continued presence in Iraq will not guarantee victory by most definitions. It IS predictable that US lives will contiue to be lost and others will be maimed for life.

If we leave sooner rather than later advocates of the war claim that the consequences will be dire which is possible although our continued presence there does not guarantee a better outcome.

A third possibility is that if Iraq were successfully divided into three separate countries, it is possible that the intersectarian violence will abate and the three ethnic groups will get on with their lives constructively.

TREATMENT

1. Palliative and symptomatic

a) Stay the course and wishful thinking
b) Cut and Run and wishful thinking

2. Curative = Radical surgery to separate the congenitally conjoined triplets.

Partition of Iraq into 3 separate countries and dividing Baghdad by the Tiber River.

(I ONCE EARNED A LIVING AS A NAVIGATOR)

To get from one point on the globe to another point you need to:

1. Know where you are going

2. Be properly equipped to get there.

3. Know when to change course

4. Keep track of the vessel’s progress

5. Be aware that winds, tides and currents can deviate the vessel from its course

6. Be aware of hazards to navigation

7. Be able to anticipate and recognise landmarks.

8. Make use of multiple methods of navigation

9. Maintain communications

10. Avoid collision courses with other vessels

These a few that come to mind FOR WHAT THEY ARE WORTH

FIRE… READY…AIM

July 14, 2007

FIRE First we invaded Iraq.

READY? Then the question came up about our being ready and The Donald Rumsfeld said “You go to war with the army you have” implying that this was not a war of choice.

AIM The then question came up about what was the aim of the Iraq invasion when it became apparent that Iraq was not the threat to the USA that it was tauted to be and maybe they had nothing to do with 9/11. So then it was to get rid of a bad person. Then it was to bring democracy to Iraq which would then spead all over the Middle East. Then it was to fight them there so we would not have to fight them here.

I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PARTITION IN THIS BLOG WITH ONE VERY BIG DIFFERENCE FROM THE WAY WE GOT INVOLVED IN THE IRAQ INVASION.

I propose getting the international community involved and hashing out the issues before we go to the Iraqis themselves and propose such a thing.

God forbid we get the appropriate people together and try to hash out what conditions would be necessary for three separate countries to be formed out of the present Iraq.

Those same people who decided that it was a great idea to ignore the rest of the world and invade iraq preemptively now have decided that it is out of the question to even talk about partitioning Iraq.

IT MUST BE NICE TO HAVE SUCH INFINITE WISDOM.

THE PRESENT COURSE IS EXHAUSTING FUEL AND IF THE CREW DOES NOT MUTINY OR THE SHIP HIT A REEF OR PIRATES BOARD OR HAVE A COLLISION OR FIRE AT SEA WILL SIMPLY RUN OUT OF FUEL AND DRIFT UNDER EVEN LESS CONTROL than THERE IS NOW.

Let us alter course for the Partition Coast and make stops at Kurdistan, Sunnistan and Shiastan.