Their input would be invaluable in discussions about the possibility of making 3 countries out of Iraq. One big concern would be the presence of a Kurdish state across the border from Turkey which has more ethnic Kurds living within her borders than anywhere else in the world.

I am certain that Turks and Kurds living in the USA have learned that it is possible to be Americans while embracing their ethnic and cultural origins. Their input would be invaluable in resolving some of the issues in the formation of three countries out of Iraq. The Turks, very rightfully, need to be assured that an independant Kurdfstan will not cause problems for them

Maybe we can start straightening out the Iraq mess right here in wordpress.

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Helene Cooper wrote an interesting article about partition of Iraq. Even some officials in the Bush Administration are taking an interest.

Maybe someday it will dawn on them that if partition of Iraq works, GW Bush could come out of Iraq smelling like a rose for having deposed Saddam.

We may have to call it something other than partition which has the same sort of connotation as crusade in the mind of Arabs.

IN TODAY’S NEW YORK TIMES there is an article of interest by Helene Cooper on the front page of the Week in Review section

The author notes that Joseph Biden, with his proposal for a soft partition of Iraq (3 semi-autonomous regions under a big, if weak Iraq umbrella)is the one Democratic candidate with a coherent proposal for dealing with the debacle in Iraq that is increasingly picking up steam.

The author further notes that even officials in the Bush administration have started sounding positive notes. “The truth is , we could end up close to the Biden-Gelbproposal” a senior administration official said.

“The article acknowledges what a growing number of Middle East experts say is plain as day: Iraqi Shiites and Sunnis are not moving toward reconciliation; they still haven’t managed to get an oil law passed, and de facto ethnic cleansing is underway as Sunnis flee largely Shiite neighborhoods and towns and vice-versa.”

The article goes on to say that the word partition has a bad ring in the ears of Arabs given that a UN partition plan had paved the way for the state of Israel. It also mentions problems with Iraq’s neighbors.

There are multiple issues involved The modalities of how the division of Iraq should take place are not yet known. Further, we do not know whether it should be a “soft partition” or a total separation. We can draw borderlines so that the oil wealth of Iraq can be divided among the 3 ethnic groups in proportion to their populations. One of the other issues is how to have an independant Kurdish state with one half of the worlds Kurdish population living across the border in Turkey and have the Turks sit still for that. We need international support for input and mediation. Above all we need to get the appropriate people talking with each other hashing out the issues.

And they are fighting amongst themselves. Isn’t that precious? Just like Larry, Moe and Curley.

Except their names are :Kudistan ,Sunnistan and Shiastan.

That which Winston Churchill in the aftermath of World War One put together, let no man put asunder.

ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET THE SUNNIS AND SHIITES TO START GETTINJG ALONG WITH EACH OTHER? OR IS THAT NOT A PROBLEM?

Do Americans keep getting killed and maimed for life? Does our treasury keep hemorrhaging money. Do we keep passing along the debt to our children and grandchildren?

AND THE USA TOTALLY POLARIZED. No middle ground. Both options have very serious flaws. As the proponents of each of those strategies will be happy to tell you.

And the entire USA stands frozen like a deer with its eyes caught in the headlights of a car.

I am not saying that we impose partition upon Iraq tomorrow. I am saying to rigorously explore the possibility of separating the Kuirds, Shiites and Sunnis.

The Devil is in the details of partition but the devil is running the show now.

Maybe the partition of Iraq is the worlds dumbest idea BUT

1. We don’t know that.

2. Even if it does not prove to be feasible, we probably benefit by coming to grips with issues that are causing the present problem and that would be helpful

3. It would be encombant upon those who oppose partition to come up with some mechanism whereby Iraq could remain together.

DO WE THEN CUT AND RUN?

How about getting the appropriate people together and TALKING about about some other approach to the problem in Iraq?

I am not saying that we go off half-cocked as we did in the invasion but we could DISCUSS how it might to be possible to separate the warring factions into 3 separate countries so that we can all get on with our lives.

WHAT WE NEED IS ETIOLOGIC TREATMENT WHICH GOES AFTER THE CAUSE.

The separation of Iraq into three parts at least attempts to treat the underlying cause of Iraq’s problems.

POSSIBLY But maybe they cannot be separated. but at least we should discuss if it is feasible. We really cannot say one way or the other until we have examined the patient.

In the same way, we cannot know whether Iraq can be separated successfuly until we have thoroughly examined the patient.

We cannot decide ahead of time one way or the other whether Iraq can be successfully partitioned.

Even if we decide that it is not possible, we may well have learned how to take better care of the patient so that this examination would be a worthy endeavor whether or not we actually partition the country.

in the discussions of whether or not the partition of Iraq would be a good idea.

Those taking part in discussions should be:

Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites
Turks and Kurds who live in the USA
Arabs (Syrians, Iraqis,Jordanians, Egyptians and others)
Turks
Europeans
Maybe Russians, Japanese and any others who might be able to bringt something to the discussion.

WE SHOULD START WITH A CLEAN SLATE WITH EVERYONE COMING TO THE TABLE WITH AN OPEN MIND AND WILLING TO ADMIT THAT IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A GOOD IDEA.